Be polite, guys

what

also, link?

what in the world is that

http://crystalkeep.com/magic/rules/summaries.php

I had forgotten about this

looks like it went from "can attack the turn it comes into play" to "haste" as well

"the follow-through"

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Fun times ahead!

Apparently this is still how it works :pmostare:

There's a chess variant, Kriegspiel, where you don't see your opponent's pieces, but the game moderator informs you if you attempt to make an illegal move. I wonder if you could play Magic that way?

How would you handle counterspells?

Only the best players could play them.

a good player would just play around it

Some stuff obviously wouldn't work, but I imagine you would say ahead of time that you are going to try to cast e.g. Remove Soul at the first opportunity. Then you would get told whether or not you did, etc.

Another one is, do you get to know that I have a Pernicious Deed in play and do you get to Krosan Grip it

Doesn't that ruling also apply to Wishes and the sideboard under Mindslaver? You just name a card because you can't see their sideboard.

I don't know if it's ever worked that way, but that's not how it works now. Death Wish or Development can get a random sideboard card, but Living Wish can't get anything.

Your avatar makes you look very excited by these rulings.

So what happens when I Mindslaver you then activate your Spawnsire of Ulamog? Cast zero Eldrazi cards? laaaame.

Any way you want, as long as you're polite about it.

Didn't you have to change phase to lose based on life total anyways?

Wheres the super-old-school "can I lightning bolt you?" trick? :pmothrust:

Anecdotally, Mike Flores actually pulled that one off in the finals of a PTQ when his opponent had 20+ mana floating. "Tell me when I have priority." and the guy did... so obv Flores just bolted him because who plays to win?

Having heard it more than once, I believe that it is true.

"Do You Have Any Fast Effects?"

I was referring to the deal where you asked them if you could lightning bolt them and you somehow end their turn.

Sounds like Flores pulled it off, and then punted by casting a spell and passing priority back. If he just passed on an empty stack, that would be a lot of mana burn! He probably would have won!

The way I heard him tell it, it was deliberate because he didn't actually want to win a game on "you manaburn for more than twenty", even though the judges watching would have probably thought it was legit, since everything was Wild West-ier back then.

(whether or not you believe that is up to you and I suspect you side with me on "not")

Back then, you didn't lose unless you got to the end of a phase with negative life points. There were combo decks that repeatedly went below 1 life during the same phase.

Infernal Contract was some good back then.

"Can I Bolt you?"
"Huh? Yeah, whatever."
"Okay, so you passed priority so I could play Bolt. I'm not going to Bolt, though; I'm going to pass as well, which ends the phase."
" :pmoconfused: "

Whenever we go down memory lane to the bad old days when the rules were wild and strange, I like to remember the timing charts from Tom Wylie printed in Duelist #9.

Here is the old Arcana article that has all if those charts for us to check out.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Arti...gcom/arcana/130

I swear, if there were 10 people in the whole world that completely understood Magic, interrupt windows and all, It was a miracle.

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Don't worry, the 'can I bolt you' loophole was closed by the modern communication guidelines. If a player asks for priority and does nothing with it, priority is returned to the original player.