For those who need a separate thread for this and who don't go to MTGS or the mothership

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Arti...aily/arcana/396

From Tardvation:

also, basic land arts show hedrons in various stages of transmogrification/dismantling:

ManaNation.com playmats with RoE basic land arts

That is cool

So, you draw the cards even if you cast him for an alternate cost, and even if the spell is countered?

Him with [card]delay[/card] is hilarious.

I guess in standard you have, what, [card]Djinn of Wishes[/card]? [Card]Maelstrom Archangel[/card]?

In extended, there's hideaway lands, [card]fist of the suns[/card], [card]jhoira of the ghitu[/card].

Of course, there's also 8-post and tron in extended. Is he better than sundering titan in decks like that?

No, since he has to attack to do anything if you're cheating him out.

I still think he'll see play somewhere.

You can cheat on the mana cost as long as you're still casting him, and you'll draw the cards. All the methods GS posted will work. Sneak Attack and things that just drop him on the battlefield won't.

Well, Sneak Attacking him will still Annihilate 4 and do 12 damage. :pmoshrug:

It's also not infeasible to just ramp up to some of these things, especially with a little help from the Eye of Ugin. Elvish Archdruid shenanigans also seems like a decent bet, since your guys do stuff besides find lands.

He's also a pseudo-[card]Gaea's Blessing[/card], and you can pitch him EOT with 7+ cards in hand to feldon's cane yourself. Not an awful one-of out of the sideboard if mill decks are a problem.

Also, the permanents get sacrificed even if you fog him, so he's good against turbofog decks for a variety of reasons.

[card]Flash[/card] him into play whenever you want your opponent to sacrifice a bunch of stuff.

Seems like that would not work how you want it to.

I guess it could see some sideboard play as a one-of target for Stoneforge Mystic decks. Maybe. It kinda sucks if your opponent doesn't have any permanents.

edit: I thought it was 1 to equip, but I looked at the pixels and it's 3. Fuck. Seven mana before it does anything? What, I look like I'm made of mana?

PASS.

No, probably not

Flash him into play whenever you want to shuffle your graveyard into your library

Flash him into play when you have ten mana and surprise block+opportunity!

Game loss!

Kozilek, Butcher of Truth {10}
Imaginary Creature - Eldrazi (M)
When you feel like it, draw four cards.
Annilihator 4 (At a time of your choosing destroy a number of permanents.)
I think it has a graveyard ability too. Don't forget that.
12/12
Wait, what does flash do again? And how do you spell "Annihilator" anyway?

The graveyard ability is triggered, right?

If so, would something like [card]Entomb[/card] + [card]Shallow Grave[/card]/[card]Goryo's Vengeance[/card] work?

yes, but why would you ever want that instead of iona?

Clearing your opponent's board of permanents and dealing 12 isn't too shabby :shrug:

I am aware it wouldn't fit into the controllish build that Müller used to win GP Madrid, but there might be a different, more agressive build that's worth testing.

but if your opponent's deck is any good, they'll have upwards of six white instant-speed removal spells

SEVEN. SEVEN IS THE CORRECT NUMBER BASED ON MY EXTENSIVE PLAYTESTING

I don't see how it would work. You'd emtomb it and then it's ability would trigger and then you'd shuffle it back into your library.

Or maybe you entomb it and its ability would trigger and then you attack for 12.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CAST SPELLS (OF A CERTAIN COLOR) (UNTIL THE END OF MY TURN).

New rule: triggered abilities all have Split Second.

Oh yeah... that. Good point.

mod: please move this thread to salvation where it fucking belongs.

:pmooffput:

If a mod moves this thread, does he get to draw four cards?

dude, mods don't move or close anything here




because if they did, guerilla tactics would trigger

yeah holy shit that politics thread is a monster it rules

The politics thread really is the best thread. It is so fucking huge.

That's what she said

For the last time, it's not being cast. Infraction issued.

I don't think that creature is big enough.

apparently RoE is all colorless and hybrid

HEDRONS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

What? Really?

*shrug*