So the classic quarter is running this

http://www.classicquarter.com/poty.asp

prolepsis you better win

go pro leper sissy! :patriot:

I managed to get 2nd in this year's poty runnings, but I'm not actually sure over which time period they measured, because I did pretty well, but only like for a month?

I'm pretty sure there's a good landstill/dreadnaught deck with deeds, so I'm probably going to run that. I definitely need to find dazes though.

what should I play?

what good decks are there even? maybe i should have looked into such questions before I started the thread :derf:

Decks for the post-Tempest meta will all be published on 1/8, so there'll be a ton of data. Mostly there are blue-based goyf decks, either in thresh flavor (with red for bolt, f/i or white for stp/enforcer) or controlling builds (with black for hymn/stalker, with or without landstill). There's still stupid red decks, but I think that chill is the first truly effective hate card, as it is cheap and provides a significant edge for control decks early. There's also this stupid mono-black deck that probably is terrible, but only showed up recently, mostly as a response to wasteland (along with fish-with-actual-fish). Combo is still around: necro is good but not great, storm combo for some reason doesn't have a foothold and there's probably room for a bunch of others, like belcher and stuff.

Anyway, I am probably going to play a blue deck with w/b/g and wastelands, but need to scour the t8 for a good list. I am terrible at deckbuilding.

prolepsis won the PE yesterday, so off to a good start! :)

prolep is not in this PE atm :(

Congrats to prolepsis with his great dreadstill deck. Boy did I play bad against it.

Just want to add my own two cents: Necro is the best deck in the format, its just not played that much because it is expensive and people think it isn't fun :trey:

I wrote a small tourney report about my deck yesterday on puremtgo.com. I'm 5-1 right now in the swiss with the same deck.

Bonus! Decklist attached if you are too lazy to click through/read.

[DECK]4 Ponder
3 Breeding Pool
4 Daze
1 Executioner's Capsule
4 Underground Sea
2 Trinket Mage
4 Thoughtseize
4 Brainstorm
1 Academy Ruins
1 Swamp
1 Island
4 Wasteland
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Engineered Explosives
4 Grindstone
1 Pithing Needle
1 Echoing Truth
3 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
4 Painter's Servant
3 Dark Confidant
4 Force of Will
2 Demonic Consultation

Sideboard
2 Tormod's Crypt
3 Hydroblast
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Krosan Grip
3 Tombstalker
4 Tarmogoyf[/DECK]

i played zoo and got beaten by that nub necro deck and ichorid. 4-2 is ok but i don't know if i even beat any real decks

edit: also put [deck] tags around your deck and it will format it nicely

I really don't like the necro deck. It's fairly resilient to hate, but the actual Plan A isn't as solid as I'd like it. It fizzles on a regular basis (probably much more than TPS, which already fizzles more than I'm comfortable with), and unlike other combo decks, it is highly dependent on your life total prior to comboing off, which means that is susceptible both to aggro and control. It's a little hard to tell because you do need to play a certain way to beat necro which a lot of people don't, and there's also a ton of terribly built necro lists out there, but that's my opinion.

I like the painter list. I think the painter combo is compact enough that you can include other effective strategies (like generic bob beatdown). I guess the question is if you have daze, fow, and other tempo cards what the best finisher is: painter, bob, fish, goyf, naught, etc.

hey, looks like you won. well done :D

After today I completely agree. I was 3-0 versus Necro and I previously thought that would have been impossible. But I think the key is finding that right way to play (what to counter, when to counter) that I seemed to gain an appreciation of today.

The only tricky part here is also being able to fit in counterbalance + top. I wish I could cut Daze for Counterbalance, but Daze seems like a necessary concession to the fast combo decks.

6th place is interesting

AKKI LAVARUNNER YU

This better not be like last time :(

Didn't a deck like that accidentally appear in a t8 list before? Is this just a running joke?

I'll find out. It's possible that this was another misfired tournament.

I can vouch that this deck actually existed. I thought I was going to be paired against it in the t8, so I replayed every game he had in the 5 swiss rounds and saw every single one of those cards. I figured after I got to the maindeck smash to smithereens that there must have been a ton of one-ofs. My guess is it's just a list adapted from 60-card singleton.

Magic Online events guy vouches that the deck is real. The tournament fired with 24, and he lost to Wizard Not Of The Coast in the t8.

The 2nd place deck is pretty crazy too

prolepsis says the enlightened tutor + targets make him vomit, but i kind of like it v :) v

so in the PE going on right now prolepsis is 1-0 with his usual dreadnought deck while funkeymonkeyman is playing an elfball deck with skullclamps that he and NicotineJones were talking about in chat yesterday. good luck! i wish i had gotten up earlier!

edit: fmm won his first match too

Go :B!

fmm and prolepsis got paired round 2 :(. fmm fizzled twice to give prolepsis the 2-0 win.

me and prol got paired again in t8 of tonight's pe. :/

here's the list for anyone interested:

[deck]
13 Forest
1 Pendelhaven
1 Elvish Spirit Guide
4 Fyndhorn Elves
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Heritage Druid
4 Birchlore Rangers
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Quirion Ranger
4 Wirewood Symbiote
4 Summoner's Pact
1 Regal Force
1 Viridian Shaman
2 Elvish Visionary
4 Skullclamp
4 Glimpse of Nature
1 Grapeshot

Sideboard
3 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Pithing Needle
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Krosan Grip
[/deck]

that looks like a very affordable list. why only one elvish spirit guide though?

:swoon:

Same reason the ext version didn't run mox. The combo goes off when it has a repeatable +mana situation, which it turns into a +card situation via regal force, double glimpse or clamp. This is usually less a function of having mana to kick it off than having the right cards (nettle, heritage, birchlore). Especially in classic, where the goal is to go off t2, you really speed up the combo. The one ESG was there for pactable daze protection.

lol kk ^^

AGREE

my list is now that -1 elvish visionary +1 eternal witness

I've been running it in 4man queues and only been losing to this stupid Merfolk deck that I ALWAYS get paired against (even then I'm about 50/50.) The one real problem I'm having is that it takes me forever to actually run out the combo and my clock is really taking a beating.

Also I'd like something better than Grip SB but I'm not sure what.

Leyline? >_>

IT ISN'T STUPID :rage:

Is this even with f7? Does your computer suck?

I could get through the extended combo in just a few minutes, regularly finishing matches with more that 20 minutes left on my clock. I can believe that skullclamp is slower than glimpse (click, click on mana, click on guy), but it seems like it shouldn't really be an issue.

What does F7 do?

I would sometimes have problems just finishing drafts due to clock, but I only had 512 ram. Bought more ram and haven't had an issue since.

yeah, my laptop sucks big time for magic online these days lol

You can turn f7 on/off any time you need to put a trigger on the stack. It will stay on for the whole game.

While turned on, any time all of the abilities you need to put on the stack are "the same", they will just automatically hop on the stack themselves, instead of waiting for you to choose an ordering.

So if you have three Nettle Sentinels out, and f7 is turned on, when you play a green spell you don't have to click twice to get all the triggers on the stack, they just arrive on their own.

The usual case with Elves (for me) is that I have some number of Nettles, some number of Hivemasters, and one or two Glimpses. This means that when I play a dork, I click on the Glimpse triggers, the Nettle triggers all hop on after that, the stack resolves, and then a bunch of Hivemaster triggers hop on.

It probably saves me 100+ clicks per game.

I suggested leyline to FMM, but the problem with that is, if you don't draw it in your opening hand, it's pretty terrible.

Shusher might be _reasonable_ but still probably not good enough.

Where did you learn about this?

From reading about how the MTGO client works, I'd assume.